Episodes

Thursday Jan 16, 2025
Fathoms Feature: Being More than Your Type with Sandra C. Smith
Thursday Jan 16, 2025
Thursday Jan 16, 2025
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In this episode, we talk to Sandra C. Smith, an Enneagram teacher, about her new book, The Enneagram Map to Your Deeper Self: Living Beyond Your Type.
[2:44] Getting to know Sandra through summer-themed questions
[8:26] Sandra’s personal journey with the Enneagram
[12:19] Sandra’s teachers, their influences on her and how they show up in her book
[17:16] Defining type and why is understanding that you’re more than and not just your type is important for your growth
[25:37] How Sandra’s strengths show up as she wrote her book
[29:19] The dualities of the types
[41:39] This yearning to open ourselves to more of what we are
[47:21] Prompt for each type to help them reframe and move beyond their own limited perspective
[52:24] Why we should buy Sandra’s book and where they can buy it
Follow Sandra’s work: Alchemy Works // @sandrasmithalchemyworks // Heart of the Enneagram Podcast // “The Enneagram Map to Your Deeper Self: Living Beyond Your Type”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
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Tuesday Apr 20, 2021
The Enneagram & Leadership - S6 E6
Tuesday Apr 20, 2021
Tuesday Apr 20, 2021
Sandra and Chris reflect on the wisdom gleaned from leaders in Season 6 and offer an overview of the gifts and sensibilities of each Enneagram type as it relates to leadership.

Tuesday Apr 13, 2021
The Enneagram & Leadership - S6 E5
Tuesday Apr 13, 2021
Tuesday Apr 13, 2021
Join Sandra and Chris as they talk with Vance Brown, who leads with Enneagram type Three. Vance shares the ways in which his type shows up in his leadership role as a high-tech CEO.

Tuesday Apr 06, 2021
The Enneagram & Leadership - S6 E4
Tuesday Apr 06, 2021
Tuesday Apr 06, 2021
Learn about the gifts and challenges of a type Eight leader as Chris and Sandra talk with non-profit co-director and NC Senator Julie Mayfield.

Tuesday Mar 30, 2021
The Enneagram & Leadership - S6 E3
Tuesday Mar 30, 2021
Tuesday Mar 30, 2021
Listen as Chris and Sandra talk with Bill Toth who leads with Enneagram type Six. Bill shares how his Enneagram type has influenced the ways in which he leads in his diverse professional background in global security.

Tuesday Mar 23, 2021
The Enneagram & Leadership - S6 E2
Tuesday Mar 23, 2021
Tuesday Mar 23, 2021
How do a type One and type Three co-lead a team? Find out as Chris and Sandra talk with Elizabeth Sawin & Drew Jones, Co-founders of Climate Interactive. Beth and Drew share the insights they have gleaned from years of co-leading and how their leadership styles relate to their Enneagram Types.

Tuesday Mar 16, 2021
The Enneagram & Leadership - S6 E1
Tuesday Mar 16, 2021
Tuesday Mar 16, 2021
Micky ScottBey Jones, a womanist, faith-rooted contemplative activist, movement chaplain, nonviolence practitioner, and justice doula, shares how her leadership is informed and impacted by her Enneagram Type 1.

Tuesday Sep 22, 2020
Elder Wisdom Season Finale - S5 E7
Tuesday Sep 22, 2020
Tuesday Sep 22, 2020
Sandra and Chris reflect on the wisdom gleaned from elders in Season 5 and ask each other what they would say to their 25 year old self.

Tuesday Sep 15, 2020
Elder Wisdom with Sandra Maitri - S5 E6
Tuesday Sep 15, 2020
Tuesday Sep 15, 2020

Tuesday Sep 08, 2020
Elder Wisdom with Jeanette Stokes - S5 E5
Tuesday Sep 08, 2020
Tuesday Sep 08, 2020
Jeanette Stokes shares how the Enneagram has influenced her understanding of her vocational journey resourcing women in ministry.